[shelby research]Shelby digest, Vol 1 #38

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Hello Judy,

       I noticed your comments with reference to the connection to the 
Alabama State      Senator Richard Shelby of being the great great grandson of John 
Rufus Shelby     and that JR migrated to Dallas County Alabama. Well, this 
really caught my    attention because I live in Selma Alabama (Dallas County) and 
I have been     researching my SHELBY line. It is interesting to now see the 
connection to    where this reference I had received several years ago to the 
Shelby's riding into     Dallas County "riding fine horse's." I will have to 
look that up later to see where it    came from. I will also have to visit the 
Mount Pleasant   Presbyterian Church just    north of where I live. I wish I 
could say that this is my Shelby line, but I can't. I     am still looking for 
a (documented) connection to my great great grandfather      Abraham Shelby of 
Hickman County Tennessee (born in the Carolina's). I had a      Hickman 
County web site volunteer to say that Abraham can be traced back to   Rees Shelby 
(per LDS records), so far I have not found anything to confirm this. I    do 
want to make a trip to Charlotte North Carolina to research this more. Do you      
have any idea of where I could possibly start? I know the library will 
probably be    my first stop.  I did also want to say as it was mentioned from a 
lady from this l    last digest, the name of the ship that Evan and his family 
came over on, if   possible would be great to have. I better go for now. Thanks 
so much for keeping      us informed with new information on the Shelby's. I 
hope to talk to ya later. 

       Jerry Dalton Shelby
       Selma, Alabama
       Jd68bap@aol.com



Letter from Richard C SHELBY (then Representative of AL-1978, now Senator 
1998), to Mrs Hoberta Frost, 13 Nov 1978.-

He stated that "John Rufus was his gr gr grandfather and was born in 
Mecklenburg Co, NC, which is where the city of Charlotte is located. John R 
migrated to Dallas Co, AL near Selma. At the time he settled in Dallas Co, 
that portion of Dallas Co was in what is now Perry Co, but the boundaries 
were rearranged sometime after the Civil War. He and his wife are both 
buried at Mount Pleasant Presbyterian Church north of Selma, AL."

[my note-J.A.T.---A study of the county boundry lines, show that Selma, 
Dallas Co, was not a part of Perry Co, except in 1810, when all of Alabama 
was Indian land.
Alabama became a territory in 1817 and a state in 1819 and by the 1820 
census Perry and Dallas were two separate counties- their boundries did 
change a bit over the coming years, but did not include the area that is 
around Selma.]

I've been to Christ Church in Phila..that is how I found the bapt for 
Mary..it was under the name SELBY. Its a pretty church, with a long 
history, and is in the old part of Phila. Do let us know what they send 
you. At the time (1985) the originals were not available to the public. The 
records at that time were located in the rectory, next to the church-they 
also had a nice little gift shop.

May have more on John Rufus...

Judy




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Hello Judy,<BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I noticed your comments with reference=20=
to the connection to the Alabama State&nbsp;     Senator Richard Shelby of b=
eing the great great grandson of John Rufus Shelby&nbsp;    and that JR migr=
ated to Dallas County Alabama. Well, this really caught my&nbsp;   attention=
 because I live in Selma Alabama (Dallas County) and I have been&nbsp;    re=
searching my SHELBY line. It is interesting to now see the connection to&nbs=
p;   where this reference I had received several years ago to the Shelby's r=
iding into&nbsp;    Dallas County "riding fine horse's." I will have to look=
 that up later to see where it&nbsp;   came from. I will also have to visit=20=
the Mount Pleasant   Presbyterian Church just&nbsp;   north of where I live.=
 I wish I could say that this is my Shelby line, but I can't. I&nbsp;    am=20=
still looking for a (documented) connection to my great great grandfather&nb=
sp;     Abraham Shelby of Hickman County Tennessee (born in the Carolina's).=
 I had a&nbsp;     Hickman County web site volunteer to say that Abraham can=
 be traced back to&nbsp;  Rees Shelby (per LDS records), so far I have not f=
ound anything to confirm this. I&nbsp;   do want to make a trip to Charlotte=
 North Carolina to research this more. Do you&nbsp;     have any idea of whe=
re I could possibly start? I know the library will probably be&nbsp;   my fi=
rst stop.&nbsp; I did also want to say as it was mentioned from a lady from=20=
this l&nbsp;&nbsp;  last digest, the name of the ship that Evan and his fami=
ly came over on, if&nbsp;  possible would be great to have. I better go for=20=
now. Thanks so much for keeping&nbsp;     us informed with new information o=
n the Shelby's. I hope to talk to ya later. <BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jerry Dalton Shelby<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Selma, Alabama<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jd68bap@aol.com<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Letter from Richard C SHELBY (then Representative of AL-1978, now Senator <B=
R>
1998), to Mrs Hoberta Frost, 13 Nov 1978.-<BR>
<BR>
He stated that "John Rufus was his gr gr grandfather and was born in <BR>
Mecklenburg Co, NC, which is where the city of Charlotte is located. John R=20=
<BR>
migrated to Dallas Co, AL near Selma. At the time he settled in Dallas Co, <=
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that portion of Dallas Co was in what is now Perry Co, but the boundaries <B=
R>
were rearranged sometime after the Civil War. He and his wife are both <BR>
buried at Mount Pleasant Presbyterian Church north of Selma, AL."<BR>
<BR>
[my note-J.A.T.---A study of the county boundry lines, show that Selma, <BR>
Dallas Co, was not a part of Perry Co, except in 1810, when all of Alabama <=
BR>
was Indian land.<BR>
Alabama became a territory in 1817 and a state in 1819 and by the 1820 <BR>
census Perry and Dallas were two separate counties- their boundries did <BR>
change a bit over the coming years, but did not include the area that is <BR=
>
around Selma.]<BR>
<BR>
I've been to Christ Church in Phila..that is how I found the bapt for <BR>
Mary..it was under the name SELBY. Its a pretty church, with a long <BR>
history, and is in the old part of Phila. Do let us know what they send <BR>
you. At the time (1985) the originals were not available to the public. The=20=
<BR>
records at that time were located in the rectory, next to the church-they <B=
R>
also had a nice little gift shop.<BR>
<BR>
May have more on John Rufus...<BR>
<BR>
Judy<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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