[shelby research]Re: SHELBY- WLS Surnames List

[Rowland Smuck]

Thanks Judith, this clears up a lot of my questions!
Rowland Smuck of Roseburg, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith A Trolinger" <hoberta@hilconet.com>
To: <shelby@lists.trolinger.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [shelby research]Re: SHELBY- WLS Surnames List


> Hi again Rowland,
>    Didn't mean to take so long with this--
>
> Yes, in 1749 Evan Shelby and wife Catherine Morgan, sold at least part of
> the Mountain of Wales to Andrew Blair..and then about 1765 Evan and
> Catherine's son Evan Jr (wf Letitia Cox) sold a part of The Resurvey to
the
> Mountain of Wales, to Andrew.
>
> Your questions have been a 'sticky wicket' for more years than I can
count!
>
> Have not been able to find any indications that Catherine Morgan came here
> with any of her family.
>
> Yes, Phillip Selby/Shelby is as far as we can document..
>
> Andrew Blair was not the f-i-l to Evan Shelby [wf Catherine] The thought
on
> this by early Shelby searchers was based on the thought that Catherine was
> a Davies/Davis, and therefore must be a sister to Andrew's wife. Then
> because the Shelby's sold their land to Andrew, they must be related.
> Then since Evan and Catherine had a son Rees with a wife Mary...Mary must
> have been Andrew's daughter.. Admittedly at the time (early 1900s) it all
> seemed plausible but all was question marked..somewhere along the line all
> or most of the question marks got dropped and it got into print as
> fact..The Shelbys apparently did not make any attempt at researching the
> Blair side..
>
> Researchers have a tendency to use Davies/Davis interchangeably, and that
> makes the research harder. But to the best of my knowledge (at the moment)
> I don't see a Shelby connection to Andrew's wife. No, Evan and Catherine
> didn't have a daugher Catherine--that we know of...
> Evan and Letitia Shelby had a daughter Catherine, but she wasn't born
until
> 1755 and is documented.
>
> Bottom line is... No one has been able to prove OR disprove a Shelby-Blair
> marriage..Two of the stopping points-
> Andrew Blair names a daughter Mary SHILVY in his will..have not been able
> to prove or disprove if this was a misspelling for Shelby.
> 2nd...No one seems to know when Mary was born, or her birth order, but it
> would have to have been after 1735, and therefore pushing her marriageable
> age into the early 1760s..
> +++++++
> The data for Evan, his parents, and children, come (in part) from the
> records found at St Caron's church, in Tregaron (now Dyfd) Cardiganshire,
> Wales [have photocopies]; and currently have alot of documentation that
was
> not readily available to the earlier researchers.
>
> Many original records can be found in THE SHELBY FAMILY PAPERS, Library of
> Congress.  These records have been microfilmed [I have them] and can be
> found at the Filson Club Library in Louisville, KY and also the State
> Archives in Nashville, TN- and probably other large libraries.
>
> Judy Trolinger
>
> At 10:36 AM 9/5/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi Judith, thanks for answering. I am descended from Andrew Blair &
> >Elizabeth Davis, she was rumored to be descended from a Catherine Shelby?
> >It gets very confusing about
> >that time. Andrew was supposed to have bought the Mountain of Wales from
> >Evan Shelby in 1750 Evan was supposed to be his Father in Law. In Wales I
am
> >just trying to find out where the Shelby's or Selby's came from? Philip
> >seems to have been the first in Tregaron?? One of my problems is
Elizabeth
> >Davis b 1716 in Pa, seems there are at least 3 Elizabeth Davis's born in
> >1716 in Pa??? Also I see some reference to The Davies family don't know
if
> >they are same family, looks like Davies was probably how they spelled it
in
> >Wales. The Davis name seems to be like Smith all over the place.
> >
> >Do you have a Catherine as a daughter of Evan Shelby if so what birthdate
> >and who did she marry, maybe John Davis father of Elizabeth Davis 1716
and
> >Daniel Davis and maybe David Davis????
> >
> >Evan Shelby married Catherine Morgan is she related to the Morgans of
> >Morgantown Va & WVa.
> >
> >Is Philip Shelby as far back as you go in Wales?
> >
> >Rowland Smuck of Roseburg, OR
> >
> >
>
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